Bear Bungle
Bar McKinnon Interview
I love getting in first when it comes to doing interviews. I don’t mean by being the first to break a story but being first in line on a day where said interviewee is subjected to hours of often unwanted probing from intrusive, perceivably rude, supposed journalists.
I was lucky
enough to be the first to speak to Clint ‘Bar’ (pronounced Bear, it’s German) McKinnon, by default that is, on such an occasion. “This is
actually the first one, I missed one this morning, but I have another five
lined up for this afternoon”, he tells me as I ask him if he is shit bored yet
with answering questions, thinking jackpot as I gauge his response.
So I precede
cautiously asking a safe question to keep the ball rolling, “Most people know
you from playing in a band environment, so what can we expect from you by
yourself?”
“You can
expect me shitting myself on stage and maybe having a stuttering fit,” he
admits foxingly, as if he is joking yet showing he is
deadly serious. Nerves, we all have them, some show it more and for that matter
handle them better than others. Bar tells me from the get go that he is nervous
about embarking on a solo trek across oz, yet this is the only moment
throughout our 30 min conversation that he lets on his anxiety, brooding
confidence as words flooded from his mouth, about everything that I dared ask
as our conversation covered numerous surprising things.
Sure Bar has
been a member of Mr Bungle for the last 15 years, but
this interview was supposed to be about him and his tour. I didn’t want to
introduce the inevitable subject of ‘the band’. I guess I didn’t want to seem
rude talking about something else other than what the subject was supposed to
be about, Bar’s tour. But the more I think about it Mr
Bungle is at the centre of Bars trek in that he is
proclaiming that he hasn’t given up and put his musical life on hold just
because other people within the band environment have decided to place it on an
indefinite holding period.
“Ah I don’t know
it’s hard to say. I’m still sort of working it out,” he continues. “But it’s
almost going to be me doing karaoke to my own little
recordings. Hopefully it all goes well. It’s just going to be me playing a
little bit of sax, a little bit of flute, and singing and playing guitar and
playing keyboards along to a minidisc, in a large
part, so it’s going to be a little bit funky but hopefully it all works out.”
“You’re one of
those buggers that everyone hates, you can play every bloody thing.” I joke to
him, as he gets through his never ending list of instruments. “I can sort of
fake it on everything,” he quickly professes, “That’s just a result of being
spread thin over the years by Bungle, you know. I never played flute until they
asked me too and stuff like that, but that was good and it’s gotten me to be a
more rounded musician I think.”
There is no
solo album for Bar to actually promote with this tour so I was curious as to
what he would actually be playing when he comes to town, “ I am going to be
doing some stuff I wrote when I was 17 and then I’m going to being doing some
more recent stuff that I have done that hasn’t been put to CD and released or
anything. I was sort of realising that I am doing
everything backwards. You know instead of getting a CD recorded and then going
and shopping it around and promoting it. I’m sort of taking it straight from
the bedroom and just throwing it on stage and letting it go from there.
Ultimately what I want to do is get a band together to play my music make it
more of an organic experience for people and of course to get other people
involved and bounce ideas off.”
“I am just
trying to keep things going and get stuff out there as well. Cause I know that
people are really curious and are wondering what’s going on with Bungle and I
figure this is something that I can do for them. I know it’s short of waiting
the next year and a half for the next Bungle album or waiting forever for an
album that’s never going to come. I figure that I let people know that I have
been sitting here for the last three years doing day care with the kids
essentially. I am just as antsy as anybody else you know, as (much as) any
other diehard fan is to hear new stuff. So I figure this is a little something
that I can do to let people know that I am still in there writing stuff, that I
am still being creative. At the same time though it’s a selfish thing for me to
get out there in front of an audience and see how things go. Before I go ‘ah fuck it’ and sweep it under a rug and it’s forgotten
forever.”
You may be
wondering why then would Bar choose Australia to do a solo tour when he is from
the States. It turns out that he is now based in Melbourne with his Australian
wife and their two children. “We’re here to be near grandma and grandpa and
free baby sitting, at the moment,” he jokes, before continuing, “All my friends
are in other cities or overseas. With Bungle the most I have heard from Patton is an email a month ago saying that he is booked out
for 2003. Fair enough the guy is always booked out, but I continue to send him
my ideas, some of which you may hear on this little tour, and I continue to
send them tapes with the slim hope that one day Bungle will do something again.
I’m not going to sit there and go ‘Ah fuck it’ (he
mockingly sulks), since I haven’t heard from them. I am going to continue to
send them tapes and go ‘I have ideas’. Basically I’m like everyone else out
there that’s going ‘When? When is something else going to come out and what are
they doing?’ I’m just as frustrated as anybody else out there, because I know
what amazing things can happen with the group, so for my part I am continuing
to compose and send them my ideas. I’m not giving up hope from my side of
things, even though I know Mike said in an interview relatively recently that
“as far as he was concerned Bungle’s over,” but I
don’t know if he was just sending up some sort of test balloon to sort of shake
Trey out of his mountain top studio and wake (him) up and get in touch with
him. Cause Mike and Trey have sort of a silence grudge match going with one
another. I’ve said it to people a million times that in the larger scheme of
things I realise they don’t need each other to do
what they need to do creatively, but when they can get together they are like
an unstoppable force. I wouldn’t say they are a Lennon
and McCartney by any means as far as song writing
goes, but there is something incredible that can happen. I feel that there is
so much music with the band that has yet to be done. It’s like only three
albums and Jesus Christ like four to five years between each one of them. It’s
just a joke! I would love it if we could just put anything out, cause there is
so many things that we have recorded that are finished that have been mastered
that are just sitting there, and it’s just like well fucking release them if we
are not going to do anything in the near future just release it. But people are
sticklers and they just don’t want stuff to get out there that isn’t polished
to just so… and whatever. But I’m like ‘God the name of the band is Mr Bungle, lets fucking put something out there, it’s like
big deal. People are there and they’re curious and they’re waiting and I squirm
for them, to the extent of it’s like ‘fucking hell’. But at this stage it’s up
to Trey and Mike to bury the hatchet and find some time in the schedule that we
can reconvene, Cause until I hear someone say ‘Bar it’s fucking over man, stop
calling, stop sending tapes’, I’m not going to give up.”
This was truly one of the most interesting and memorable interviews
that I have ever done and I can’t wait for Bar’s show at the Northern Star
Hotel on July 27th supported by Melbourne D.J
magician Dr EL Suavo. And
as his press release says, “Don’t be a schmuck, make
sure you are present at this groundbreaking event. What will you tell your
grandchildren if you don’t make it?”